A Texas pastor, white nationalist and podcast-bro believes white parents should be having “the talk” with their kids at an early age 一 but not the one about birds and bees.
On Sept. 8th, 2025, Pastor Joel Webbon and his staff published an episode of their podcast, Right Response Ministries, where Webbon says that white parents need to have conversations with their young children on the “dangers” of Black strangers.
“The talk that we’re referencing,” Webbon states, “is the talk that takes your children, according to their maturity, at the proper time, the appropriate time, and says there are certain parts of town that you cannot go and there are certain people that you cannot be around, right?”
Webbon labeling this as “the talk” is a direct jab at how Black families actually teach their kids to face life in racist communities and societies 一 a conversation that has lasted lifetimes. As said by Khalilah Archie, “Black parents teach their kids to keep their hands visible during traffic stops, to avoid sudden movements, to de-escalate interactions with authority figures, and to navigate a world that sees them as a threat before they even open their mouths.”
Pastor Webbon then goes on to say: “If there is someone who is black in our church, and they’ve been in our church, and we know them and they love the Lord Jesus Christ, great. We’re not talking about that person. But we’re talking about when you go into a crowd of people, if you go into a crowd of strangers, and they’re white strangers, there’s some danger. If they’re black strangers, there is 30 times more danger. Them’s the facts.”
No source was provided for those statistics.
Webbon’s justification for pushing this kind of dialogue between White, Christian parents and their kids is no secret. He believes that white people are inherently a safer people and race.
Pastors and self-righteous white religious folk have used this disguise to sow discord, fear and ignorance for centuries, especially here in America. Breeding this kind of hate in children under the umbrella of “God’s truth” will only prove to divide us, not “love thy neighbor” as Jesus preaches.
It is not often that white people have to worry about the police and unwarranted violence from the system, or being jeered at and called slurs by passers by on the street. One of the only obvious violent situations they have to worry about is their kids ending up a victim in a school or mass shooting by a fellow caucasian with access to AR-15s.
Perhaps the pastor should also warn his children about that.